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Post by New York Islanders GM on Mar 4, 2013 13:24:59 GMT -5
Good point Avs, It'd be nice if you could hide posts on threads and make them visible at a certain time.
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Post by Justin on Mar 4, 2013 14:11:33 GMT -5
Not difficult to set up a cult or set up deals with someone. Let's say 2 people bid on a guy. One's an 80 and the other was a 79. The person discards or deletes the PM regarding the 80 and allows the GM with the 79 to win. Difficult to argue this. Vice versa, someone can say they bid a higher bid just to stir up shit when they didn't. Do I think it'll happen? I would hope not but it's not like it's all roses and rainbows on here. We've had shit-storms happen before and it can happen again. Umm, because people know what they bid... That's how you know if there's cheating... And I volunteered to do it. I don't cheat, nor have connections here, nor give a shit about anyone in the auctions. Again, it seems like we are throwing shit at a celing fan here just because we fear change. What harm is there in TRYING SOMETHING NEW that requires NOTHING AT ALL from anyone. We think it's unfair to do it blind, but have no problem if I keep saying over and over again I can't win auctions in the last minute because I cannot be here. And if you are this concerned about cheating, whose to say Pens can't just delete someone's post and beat them at the last minute? If we want to get that paranoid, that's just as realistic as me cheating. |
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Post by New York Islanders GM on Mar 4, 2013 14:18:37 GMT -5
If we were to try this, I like the idea of having a separate account that people PM to that someone logs into once auctions are done to check the winners.
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Post by Justin on Mar 4, 2013 14:29:26 GMT -5
How is that different from PMing a person though? Whoever checks it can be just as corrupt as whoever we decide to PM it to.
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Post by Justin on Mar 4, 2013 14:30:58 GMT -5
plus it creates a lot of extra work. Why not just let me do it? I am here. I am willing. And I don't do auctions. I don't really want to give up my team to take over that job full time or anything (since if its arbitrarily decided its not wanted, I lose my team and my job), but I would still be willing to do it here and now so it doesn't affect the admins AT ALL.
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Post by New York Islanders GM on Mar 4, 2013 14:56:59 GMT -5
Could create some confusion as the member would also receive PMs regarding trades or other things, this way its all auction based which is less likely to make a mistake
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 15:31:09 GMT -5
A different account would be fair.
No one should be logging on until it is over, so no "deals" can happen.
Even if a mod/global mod does it, would be fine.
Canes has volunteered, I would volunteer, if needed as well
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Mar 4, 2013 16:08:23 GMT -5
Sorry if I don't trust someone who recently joined up at EA and has started up his little cult following trying to change this league.
In cap leagues, you have a PR for a reason. To avoid bias. You would need a similiar situation for this. Allowing a GM, who if they wanted to, can gauge all the FA auction bids and choose whether they want to bid on a guy or not. If noone is bidding high on a certain guy, that GM can easily swoop in and steal that player.
You need a 3rd party.
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins GM on Mar 4, 2013 16:09:51 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with this. I don't usually bid at the last second anyway. I just go after guys I really want
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 16:25:12 GMT -5
Avs, if its a different account, they can't see until after the auctions.. If they do go on before, whoever is doing it can't win auctions for that week and can no longer run the auctions.
Done
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Post by Justin on Mar 4, 2013 16:35:20 GMT -5
Sorry if I don't trust someone who recently joined up at EA and has started up his little cult following trying to change this league. In cap leagues, you have a PR for a reason. To avoid bias. You would need a similiar situation for this. Allowing a GM, who if they wanted to, can gauge all the FA auction bids and choose whether they want to bid on a guy or not. If noone is bidding high on a certain guy, that GM can easily swoop in and steal that player. You need a 3rd party. What the fuck are you talking about? a) I was a member of this site when you were sucking your mothers tit (as a kid, not a few days ago), b) I have no cult following, and c) this isn't even my suggestion for Christ's sake. |
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Post by Justin on Mar 4, 2013 16:36:55 GMT -5
Creating a whole extra account for this is making it a "thing". The whole point was this wasn't supposed to be a "thing". If you have to monitor the piss out of it, it's not worth doing. The reason I volunteered is because everyone here hates me anyways, and I never do auctions. So I am the most trustworthy chap on this site.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 16:43:09 GMT -5
It doesn't make it the same... It makes it conpletely secret until 8:00
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Post by Justin on Mar 4, 2013 16:52:21 GMT -5
Unless one person logs in. And if that person uses a proxy, no one knows who it is.
It's creating more work than necessary when you have someone like me (or you) volunteering to do it blind without any extra work on anyways part but our own.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Mar 4, 2013 17:00:58 GMT -5
Sorry if I don't trust someone who recently joined up at EA and has started up his little cult following trying to change this league. In cap leagues, you have a PR for a reason. To avoid bias. You would need a similiar situation for this. Allowing a GM, who if they wanted to, can gauge all the FA auction bids and choose whether they want to bid on a guy or not. If noone is bidding high on a certain guy, that GM can easily swoop in and steal that player. You need a 3rd party. What the fuck are you talking about? a) I was a member of this site when you were sucking your mothers tit (as a kid, not a few days ago), b) I have no cult following, and c) this isn't even my suggestion for Christ's sake. I'm talking about the fact that ever since you came back to this site you've been trying to create a bunch of ideas and blowing a fuse everytime they're rejected. As you recall, I was in favour of some of your ideas as well, so no this is no bias from me. A few other Gm's have also backed you up in each of these suggestions and you have referred to others as being too cowardly to speak their mind on here. Remember when you said Pens threatened to ban anyone who spoke up? That others are afraid of Pens? Seems to be a cult following there. I'm trying to avoid any potential problems with this idea. It will only cause more if a GM is doing them. I wouldn't even allow Pens or someone to do it, either. You need a 3rd party involved much like you need a PR for cap leagues. This is to AVOID any conflicts of interest later on. We've had serious complications from far less situations. I don't really care for this idea. It's my least favourite of all the recent ones that have come up. I'm just making sure that no further problems arise and I see a GM doing this as a problem. |
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