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Post by Crash988 - Former Canadians GM on May 31, 2011 6:51:07 GMT -5
took me from season 8 till now to get the sedins and burrs too  ouch 10 seasons to get 3 players. lol.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 9:05:54 GMT -5
LOL this is a battle for the bad teams to get better players, good teams want to keep their good players and the mid teams don't care.
I'm waiting until NHL12 personally, I may make a couple trades but other then the draft, I'm in no rush. I don't like the auctions for the same reason as PHI.
I'm hoping that come 12 the better players from NJD, Pitty etc would be easier to get.
Personally I think the keepers should be lowered to 6, but it won't happen because Pitty and Devs would be losing good players.
Anyways, we should be able to make trades with picks in the round we are in (trading 1sts in 1st round etc) never knew why we couldnt
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Post by Smolik20 - Retired Blues GM on May 31, 2011 9:31:01 GMT -5
So as a GM with a "shitty" team I gotta say it is a little frustrating always losing. I am not making any excuses but because we are so deep in our site, its very hard to upgrade on people. with my team I need to combine 2-3 players to try and get a good producer for my top line and everyone just laughs because they would lose those players in the draft anyways. It has become more difficult to trade but what keeps me going is knowing that every calender year, there is a new nhl and a chance that your team will get significantly better (or worse in my case when nhl11 came out.)
As for the draft and keepers, it would be nice to see a bigger turn out but with a bigger turn out and more rounds, our drafts would have to be done over 2 nights. Right now as it is with 5 rounds and 50% of people there, it takes a good 3 and a half to 4 hours.
I say keep it the way it is for now, wait for nhl 12 to come out and then maybe revisit the topic of how many keepers we get after that.
Just my 2 cents
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on May 31, 2011 12:15:52 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of lowering the keepers to 6, I like 8. But, I am not against a one time larger draft, said it on previous pages, several times.
The only thing I've noticed about having high level players, it usually means a playoff spot... other than that it's a wash. Like Pitty has said, look at the past Cup winners. He has 1, I have 2.. that's 3/17 for those calling us 'stacked', if we were so untouchable or 'great' shouldn't we have more than 3 cups combined?
Parity isn't a problem, dedicated GMs are... if you don't like your team build it up. Might take longer than normal cause we're so far into the league, 17 seasons, but it isn't impossible.
You want good players? Work for them. Use auctions, make trades, play predictor and gain an extra pick(asset added).
Oh, and overalls mean shit, in most cases.. Get producing players don't go for the name or overall. That seems to be a bad habit here, GM need the 'sexy' names. I've got a few and yes it does look nice but if it doesn't result in a Cup it's all for nothing anyway.
JM does it the way everyone should, IMO. Go after middle level players that are known to produce. Players like Grabovski, Morozov, Okposo, Weinhandel, Souray... none are above level 83 yet can produce 70+ points.
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Post by Crash988 - Former Canadians GM on May 31, 2011 12:26:36 GMT -5
20 bucks says that Pens and Devils change their minds after they trade teams with anyone in the bottom 5. lol
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on May 31, 2011 12:32:56 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever been in the bottom 5 of a league, wouldn't happen.  I'm too awesome. |
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Post by Crash988 - Former Canadians GM on May 31, 2011 12:34:24 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever been in the bottom 5 of a league, wouldn't happen. I'm too awesome. yes I am well aware. lol |
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Post by Florida Panthers GM on May 31, 2011 18:01:00 GMT -5
20 bucks says that Pens and Devils change their minds after they trade teams with anyone in the bottom 5. lol |
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Post by Nemits - Former Minnesota GM on May 31, 2011 18:01:55 GMT -5
JM does it the way everyone should, IMO. Go after middle level players that are known to produce. Players like Grabovski, Morozov, Okposo, Weinhandel, Souray... none are above level 83 yet can produce 70+ points. That's how I built my team for the longest time, Oleg Petrov anybody? Even now I still have two of the players you mentioned in that list, just as an example. To what Oilers said, I do tend to leave for a couple rounds, but that is because I never have picks in those rounds. If you want I could not leave, and just leave the chat open, cause I would talk about the same amount either way (not trying to take a shot at you here or anything man, just saying lol) 17 years into a league, chances are there aren't going to be any earth-shattering changes to the way things are done, there is a reason its been around 17 years. I have no cups in those years (for fucks sake) and every 2-3 years I tend to trade the whole core of my team. It's about really putting time into the team to get it to where it is a top contender. |
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on May 31, 2011 18:06:56 GMT -5
$20 says if Pens or Devils had a team in the bottom 5, they'd build the team out of the bottom 5 in a season or two.
Just like everyone is saying, not too many teams started with a kick ass team, it took a long time to get their time that way. Toronto said Pens started with a strong team, but he still made it 10x better.
My team looks pretty good on paper, IMO, but has done absolutely nothing when it matters. I've never gotten past the 2nd round. I started with Edmonton, and there isn't much to start with, but after making trades, and whatever else, the team got a lot better. Sure, it was a lot easier to make trades early on, but it's still not impossible to get big trades done. I plan on trading down soon, to get superstars off my 2nd, hopefully to change my success.
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I'm also in favour of keeping the draft how it is. You have to work to get a good team here, just like Pens said, you shouldn't just get a good team handed to you. If the top teams were winning every season, maybe things change, but obviously that's not the case.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on May 31, 2011 18:25:52 GMT -5
JM does it the way everyone should, IMO. Go after middle level players that are known to produce. Players like Grabovski, Morozov, Okposo, Weinhandel, Souray... none are above level 83 yet can produce 70+ points. That's how I built my team for the longest time, Oleg Petrov anybody? Even now I still have two of the players you mentioned in that list, just as an example. To what Oilers said, I do tend to leave for a couple rounds, but that is because I never have picks in those rounds. If you want I could not leave, and just leave the chat open, cause I would talk about the same amount either way (not trying to take a shot at you here or anything man, just saying lol) 17 years into a league, chances are there aren't going to be any earth-shattering changes to the way things are done, there is a reason its been around 17 years. I have no cups in those years (for fucks sake) and every 2-3 years I tend to trade the whole core of my team. It's about really putting time into the team to get it to where it is a top contender. Sens*** Yeah I wasn't trying to take a shot at you or Devs either. Just using you guys to make a point out how meh the drafts are. I don't really care either way, but I'm certainly open to changing things up. |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on May 31, 2011 18:43:57 GMT -5
I'm always open to changing things up to spice things up and keep things interesting but I am one of those Gm's who is primarily a ratings whore. I enjoy my top rated guys (And I'm picky about who!). Usually once I trade for a guy I like, it's hard for me to trade them away. Hell, if I had Mogilny here I wouldn't trade him. I make exceptions of course, but it's usually trading for another guy I like (No homo baha).
Some Gm's are like that. Trading for players they grew up watching or became fans of. It's the bias of a sim league. Nothing you can do about it. Some Gm's grow up trading left and right (Phoenix comes to mind) while others try and win by evaluating who produces and who doesn't. Video games are funny like that. I remember in Spitty's old league, I had Pavel Brendl 79 at the time who scored goals like no tomorrow. He played on my 3rd line, too I believe and outscored everyone. Sometimes you hit the jackpot like that.
Hell, I finished in last place last season and the past few haven't been exactly spectacular yet I have a few superstars on my own team. Just the way the cookie crumbles.
A nice delicious chocolate chip cookie with the chips melting and the cookie dough oh so soft and.. My god, I want a cookie.
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Post by Florida Panthers GM on May 31, 2011 20:28:23 GMT -5
$20 says if Pens or Devils had a team in the bottom 5, they'd build the team out of the bottom 5 in a season or two. I'd like to see them do that with my team |
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Post by The Admin Account on May 31, 2011 20:32:52 GMT -5
Next time a really shitty team opens up on here maybe I'll take them over and GM two teams. I won't trade with myself though |
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Post by Lilwayne - Retired Canucks GM on May 31, 2011 20:36:14 GMT -5
I'd take over Florida, but i'd want cpu to run the nucks so no one fucks this team over lol |
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