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Post by The Admin Account on Jan 5, 2014 22:10:47 GMT -5
Bing a bango, which is what I was saying the entire time until I received a complaint telling me to stop telling people its not concrete lol. I'm on your side here Mikey lol
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Post by Justin on Jan 5, 2014 22:20:57 GMT -5
P.S. Never modify a poll that people already voted on. Once a poll is posted, you can not modify it. It is not an option that is available to you at this time on Proboards. It's like turning dead horse carcasses into sexy naked virgins. It's just not possible. |
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Jan 6, 2014 1:43:39 GMT -5
Again with this crap?!  lol I thought we voted on changing the keeper format last season and we all voted to not change it. Why are we voting again to try and change it? Isn't this a waste of time? Sorry, I just don't see the point in this. This is far different than last season's proposal. Yes, but my point is that we already voted for no change last season; most folks are happy with the way things are. Why is it even still being discussed or even have a new proposal when we had a clear result? Because 2-5 GMs out of 25-30 aren't?  In my opinion this is waste of our time. If there was any a real proposal here, it would have been discussed in more detail by the admins before even thinking of posting this poll. We have options changing and being altered, and I dunno what the hell I'd even be voting for, if I did want to vote for one of the other options; which I don't. I honestly don't want a change. This just looks to me like you guys are looking for a change for the sake of change, not actually because it needs to be changed and over complicating and already simple procedure. Also, judging by who posted this thread in the first place, seems to me more of Justin trying to push his own will onto the league than actually the league actually wanting or needing a change. To me, it's honestly bad enough that we have to lose 5 players per season. I really don't need to be trying keeping track of what player costs me 2 points or 3 points or whatever. Pick my keepers; next top 5 go into the draft... Simple done. I don't really want nor do I think we need a change at all. |
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Post by Mike - Former Wild GM on Jan 6, 2014 5:41:09 GMT -5
This is far different than last season's proposal. Yes, but my point is that we already voted for no change last season; most folks are happy with the way things are. Why is it even still being discussed or even have a new proposal when we had a clear result? Where the hell have you been the last week? Literally the only thing outside of auctions that had hundreds of comments was the suggestion thread on this topic, where I would say at least half the league threw out ideas or discussed someone else's. This didn't come out of left field. It was tabled as a suggestion and I would assume that even most of the members that didn't participate (which was few) at least read chunks of it. But the poll has an option specifically for your opinion of "I fear change" so no worries, you're covered  |
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Post by The Admin Account on Jan 6, 2014 12:37:29 GMT -5
This is what I don't understand. You guys claim you want to be working with people and you speak for 'the people' yet Kruze starts voicing his opinion and you shit on him because he doesn't share the same one as you.
To be fair with your claims.... The suggestion was posted Jan 2nd. A poll for moving forward was posted Jan 4th. This is also around new years, thus people are focused on other things. Kruze voiced his opinion on the 5th. I don't see this 'where have you been for the last week.'
We're trying to work on something together here, not shit on people that don't voice the same opinion.
I also only counted 9 members who commented on that thread, a couple with only 1-2 posts. It was purely dominated by Canes and I.
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Jan 6, 2014 13:23:50 GMT -5
Yes, but my point is that we already voted for no change last season; most folks are happy with the way things are. Why is it even still being discussed or even have a new proposal when we had a clear result? Where the hell have you been the last week? Literally the only thing outside of auctions that had hundreds of comments was the suggestion thread on this topic, where I would say at least half the league threw out ideas or discussed someone else's. This didn't come out of left field. It was tabled as a suggestion and I would assume that even most of the members that didn't participate (which was few) at least read chunks of it. But the poll has an option specifically for your opinion of "I fear change" so no worries, you're covered Yes, a new proposal tabled and spearheaded by you & Justin after we already, as a league, voted down changing the format last season but now you fellas are back with this shit and wasting everyone's time again on this issue. And don't put words in my mouth pal, I don't fear change; I welcome it when it's warranted or needed, and there was no need for this after it was already voted on last season that we don't want a change to the format. You're basically just trying to force feed it and shove it down our throats now, which, I'm sorry to say, isn't going to generate the boost in activity you're seeking out of this. If anything, it's just going to turn more people off because this just demonstrates that even when we actually vote on an issue, as a league, it doesn't matter. The administration will just implement something either no one wants or just a small minority wants and fuck everyone else. That's really all I'm seeing here. |
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Post by Mike - Former Wild GM on Jan 6, 2014 13:35:10 GMT -5
I literally had nothing to do with this until the suggestion was made. I didn't even participate in it until other ideas were suggested and I threw one out that Cook seemed to like.
I'm not sure I get why people, and by people I mean Cranker and Kruze, are upset that a poll was posted to gear interest in something different. Seems while you're criticizing me for shitting on Kruze, Cranker has not really dont anything but shit over the entire poll.
I only say that because there is a "no" option, and the poll was done to gauge interest from the league...
Honestly, I feel like I'm just repeating myself over and over again, so I'm not going to bother anymore. Collect the data and move on. If you feel this was done clumsily by your other two admins, then maybe you guys should have three-way chats to get yourselves on the same page instead of being frustrated with members on the site when they get annoyed of the bickering between the people who are supposed to spearhead the direction of the site.
I just want to do what everyone wants to do on this site and that's have fun. I don't want to fight over every tiny detail.
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Jan 6, 2014 14:08:59 GMT -5
I literally had nothing to do with this until the suggestion was made. I didn't even participate in it until other ideas were suggested and I threw one out that Cook seemed to like. I'm not sure I get why people, and by people I mean Cranker and Kruze, are upset that a poll was posted to gear interest in something different. Seems while you're criticizing me for shitting on Kruze, Cranker has not really dont anything but shit over the entire poll.
I only say that because there is a "no" option, and the poll was done to gauge interest from the league...Honestly, I feel like I'm just repeating myself over and over again, so I'm not going to bother anymore. Collect the data and move on. If you feel this was done clumsily by your other two admins, then maybe you guys should have three-way chats to get yourselves on the same page instead of being frustrated with members on the site when they get annoyed of the bickering between the people who are supposed to spearhead the direction of the site. It's because there was no need for ANOTHER poll in the first place on this issue since we've already voted and it was voted down. It's redundant. The problem is that Justin just can't take "no" for an answer and figures he can just manipulate everything into whatever he wants. Changing the format was voted down last season. Period. Move on. |
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Post by Mike - Former Wild GM on Jan 6, 2014 14:13:43 GMT -5
You said that already. All I said was that there were people chatting about maybe being interested in this. Justin posted a poll from, I believe, the advice of Pittsburgh Penguins GM and the poll has the option "no" on it. Just click that. Then when this is all settled, I'm sure there will be a fun discussion about fine-tuning what to do. Either fine-tuning the current formula, or a new one. Who cares? Just have fun already. This site is awesome, it doesn't need to be a war zone over a little poll. If you hate it, vote no. But don't hate all over everything because this poll even exists. Just have some fun. I think polls are interesting. |
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Jan 6, 2014 14:17:47 GMT -5
You said that already. All I said was that there were people chatting about maybe being interested in this. Justin posted a poll from, I believe, the advice of @jmcook and the poll has the option "no" on it. Just click that. Then when this is all settled, I'm sure there will be a fun discussion about fine-tuning what to do. Either fine-tuning the current formula, or a new one. Who cares? Just have fun already. This site is awesome, it doesn't need to be a war zone over a little poll. If you hate it, vote no. But don't hate all over everything because this poll even exists. Just have some fun. I think polls are interesting. It's not fun when the same issue and virtually the same poll keeps getting brought up and posted EVERY fucking season by the same fucking guy.  lol Especially when it was voted down already... It's ridiculous. |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Jan 6, 2014 15:12:56 GMT -5
We've had multiple suggestions and GM's wanting to change the keeper format in previous years. This stretches back to the days where we had Quinn as an admin. Now, we decided to try and initiate the potential keeper change last season which was not wanted. That's fair.
However, this season, with an interesting new idea, which from my understanding, hasn't necessarily been done in other leagues, we bring it up again.
IF the majority want to keep things the same - Than the message is clear. We won't bother with changing the keeper format. However, there is no harm in allowing the entire league to decide whether they want this change or not. Nobody is being force fed anything. The options are clear. We're doing this for the league. We want to see what people want/don't want.
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Post by Winnipeg Jets GM on Jan 6, 2014 15:36:52 GMT -5
You said that already. All I said was that there were people chatting about maybe being interested in this. Justin posted a poll from, I believe, the advice of @jmcook and the poll has the option "no" on it. Just click that. Then when this is all settled, I'm sure there will be a fun discussion about fine-tuning what to do. Either fine-tuning the current formula, or a new one. Who cares? Just have fun already. This site is awesome, it doesn't need to be a war zone over a little poll. If you hate it, vote no. But don't hate all over everything because this poll even exists. Just have some fun. I think polls are interesting. It's not fun when the same issue and virtually the same poll keeps getting brought up and posted EVERY fucking season by the same fucking guy. lol Especially when it was voted down already... It's ridiculous. LOL talk about being clueless. Something obviously needs to happen there hasn't been any activity at all in this league till this was brought up. |
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Jan 6, 2014 15:41:51 GMT -5
We've had multiple suggestions and GM's wanting to change the keeper format in previous years. This stretches back to the days where we had Quinn as an admin. Now, we decided to try and initiate the potential keeper change last season which was not wanted. That's fair. However, this season, with an interesting new idea, which from my understanding, hasn't necessarily been done in other leagues, we bring it up again. IF the majority want to keep things the same - Than the message is clear. We won't bother with changing the keeper format. However, there is no harm in allowing the entire league to decide whether they want this change or not. Nobody is being force fed anything. The options are clear. We're doing this for the league. We want to see what people want/don't want. To a point, I agree Colorado Avalanche GM, but when is enough, enough? If/when this gets voted down again, it'll just perpetually pop up again next season and then the next season and so on. It's already starting to happen. |
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Post by The Admin Account on Jan 6, 2014 16:45:48 GMT -5
I literally had nothing to do with this until the suggestion was made. I didn't even participate in it until other ideas were suggested and I threw one out that Cook seemed to like. I'm not sure I get why people, and by people I mean Cranker and Kruze, are upset that a poll was posted to gear interest in something different. Seems while you're criticizing me for shitting on Kruze, Cranker has not really dont anything but shit over the entire poll. I only say that because there is a "no" option, and the poll was done to gauge interest from the league... Honestly, I feel like I'm just repeating myself over and over again, so I'm not going to bother anymore. Collect the data and move on. If you feel this was done clumsily by your other two admins, then maybe you guys should have three-way chats to get yourselves on the same page instead of being frustrated with members on the site when they get annoyed of the bickering between the people who are supposed to spearhead the direction of the site. I just want to do what everyone wants to do on this site and that's have fun. I don't want to fight over every tiny detail. You clearly haven't read anything I've said then. |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Jan 6, 2014 16:58:43 GMT -5
We've had multiple suggestions and GM's wanting to change the keeper format in previous years. This stretches back to the days where we had Quinn as an admin. Now, we decided to try and initiate the potential keeper change last season which was not wanted. That's fair. However, this season, with an interesting new idea, which from my understanding, hasn't necessarily been done in other leagues, we bring it up again. IF the majority want to keep things the same - Than the message is clear. We won't bother with changing the keeper format. However, there is no harm in allowing the entire league to decide whether they want this change or not. Nobody is being force fed anything. The options are clear. We're doing this for the league. We want to see what people want/don't want. To a point, I agree Colorado Avalanche GM, but when is enough, enough? If/when this gets voted down again, it'll just perpetually pop up again next season and then the next season and so on. It's already starting to happen. It won't. I can guarantee that. This is the 2nd season where a change has been proposed. After (if) it gets little positive reaction, we will move on and look to other avenues. I fail to see how this situation is being made out more than it is. It's only the 2nd time (with a different, plot twist idea) that it's been proposed. I think we'll have a clear idea of what to do once we see the results of this poll and how to move forward in this league. |
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lol I thought we voted on changing the keeper format last season and we all voted to not change it. Why are we voting again to try and change it? Isn't this a waste of time? Sorry, I just don't see the point in this. 
In my opinion this is waste of our time. If there was any a real proposal here, it would have been discussed in more detail by the admins before even thinking of posting this poll. We have options changing and being altered, and I dunno what the hell I'd even be voting for, if I did want to vote for one of the other options; which I don't. I honestly don't want a change. 
lol Especially when it was voted down already... It's ridiculous. 
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