Toronto

[Detroit Red Wings GM]

I'm just going to let you guys know now also, if Lutz gets a team back (whether it be Toronto or another team) and his name comes up to get booted, I will not be participating in any conversation about him, including defending him, if his name does come back up for a team, and then again to get booted, it's his own fault.

[jmcook]

I think both will be better GM's when they come back

[The Admin Account]

I think we have treated Toronto unfairly in giving his team away and have made a grave mistake. But we can still correct it.

[Detroit Red Wings GM]

I can see what you guys are saying, with both probably being a lot better if they came back, but I just don't know, I'm really unsure of what to do, old Toronto said a few choice words to me in the cbox, but if I vote for Lutz, he's just going to become more a pain in the ass.

[Heater - Former Capitals GM]

Lutz and Toronto did pretty much the same thing to get kicked. One complained, one didn't.

[The Admin Account]

Lutz had issues keeping his roster in check also, whereas Toronto did not, and was always here for drafts, etc.

[Detroit Red Wings GM]

I believe Lutz missed a few drafts, but he was here for the S7 draft (CAR was also at his house) and I believe Lutz sent a list for the S8 draft.

Lutz was also considered for staff at one point, but again failed to maintain his roster.

TOR also was almost always a prick when he talked to us, like I get bashing the Leafs (I do it myself) but he took it to an extreme.

[Heater - Former Capitals GM]

I should also reiterate the point that I would gladly welcome ex Toronto GM back, he does need to start participating more though.

[Detroit Red Wings GM]

Out of the two I'd welcome Lutz back first, but I'm biased (which is why I still haven't voted) as Lutz is a friend, and TOR was a jackass all the time, to me anyways.

[Heater - Former Capitals GM]

Thats how I feel as well. Clean up his act and I have no qualms with Toronto.

[The Admin Account]

I would also like to point out that Toronto was never a problem to me, in fact, he was often quite the opposite, and always treated me with respect and dignity.

[Detroit Red Wings GM]

Nov 29, 2009 20:57:42 GMT -5 The Admin Account said:

I would also like to point out that Toronto was never a problem to me, in fact, he was often quite the opposite, and always treated me with respect and dignity.

He was like that with both you and Columbus, however I can't speak for the rest of the staff, but I myself never got any respect from him. Before he left yesterday, he said something like "And before I'd leave, I'd like to send out a big Fuck You to Edmonton" which is exactly the type of shit I'm talking about.

[The Admin Account]

Yeah, he told me he thought you and Philly had it out for him.

[Heater - Former Capitals GM]

Maybe to keep himself out of more hot water. Philly, Edmonton, myself had problems for sure, not sure about NJ and Wild.

[Wynne - Retired Flyers GM]

If I had it out for him I would have voted to kick him out in the poll, but I don't believe I voted. I didn't mind keeping him but he really doesn't respect anybody except Pittsburgh and Columbus.