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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 17:32:37 GMT -5
the thing is ducks your saying that Crosby for pronger should go through...it shouldn't and you have no way of knowing i'm saying that of age...it's just not fair to trade an 84 for a 89. especially since pronger is a OD so Pronger would need to produce in order to be effective. That's like saying i'll trade Eric Staal(86) for a 81 D-man straight up...because they have the same level of effectiveness at their own position....would i ever do that NO! it would be rejected anyway and it's the same Overall diff as Crosby/Ovechkin/Thorton/Iginla for Pronger is leading to the conclusion that your just saying this because of names
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Post by Retired Ducks GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:36:02 GMT -5
the thing is ducks your saying that Crosby for pronger should go through...it shouldn't and you have no way of knowing i'm saying that of age...it's just not fair to trade an 84 for a 89. especially since pronger is a OD so Pronger would need to produce in order to be effective. That's like saying i'll trade Eric Staal(86) for a 81 D-man straight up...because they have the same level of effectiveness at their own position....would i ever do that NO! it would be rejected anyway and it's the same Overall diff as Crosby/Ovechkin/Thorton/Iginla for Pronger is leading to the conclusion that your just saying this because of names WRONG. I am saying that just because the ratings are flawed does not mean we have to play into that. Pronger is NOT worth Chris SImon (83). And we know that. You have to re-frame the ratings in terms of percentages, as I said in my original post. Lidstrom is 83 (peak for D being 84, so he is approx 98% of the best), so trading him for Simon (83 - and thus 83/89 - 93% of the best) is NOT a fair trade. WHy are people against the best D for the best offence? Are people here really going to drop guys like Phaneuf and Pronger for an average forward?
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:36:26 GMT -5
my input is that trades shouldnt be rejected unless someone is getting completely ass raped in a deal, lol who cares if someone is losing a few overalls, overalls dont always mean the better player or better fit for your team, juts my quick 2 cents lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 17:43:02 GMT -5
Ducks it's jsut that if someone was to Trade pronger for Simon it would be fairer than pronger for Crosby just because in the end of it Pronger has the same effect as Simon for there teams. EA doesn't do a D average and FW average they just do it based on performance. There average rating in the game is a 83-84-85. The reason Crosby Ovechkin Iggy and Thorton are so high is because they are the best players in the damn game today! If it was up to me i would but Lidstrom up there and pronger up to a 86 but Pronger is a 84 and will preform as a 84 no matter what position he plays.
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Post by Retired Ducks GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:46:12 GMT -5
Ducks it's jsut that if someone was to Trade pronger for Simon it would be fairer than pronger for Crosby just because in the end of it Pronger has the same effect as Simon for there teams. EA doesn't do a D average and FW average they just do it based on performance. There average rating in the game is a 83-84-85. The reason Crosby Ovechkin Iggy and Thorton are so high is because they are the best players in the damn game today! If it was up to me i would but Lidstrom up there and pronger up to a 86 but Pronger is a 84 and will preform as a 84 no matter what position he plays. Then you are right. Tuuka Fucking Rask is as good as Crosby and Ovechkin. He is the best player in the damn game today! Rask.
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Post by Retired Ducks GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:46:59 GMT -5
Also, I'm sorry dude, but when you say Pronger (best D in the game) for Simon is fair, I can't help but say you;ve lost most of your credibility...
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:50:23 GMT -5
Pronger isnt best D in game, Chara is 84 also, its a tie
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Post by Retired Ducks GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:52:32 GMT -5
Pronger isnt best D in game, Chara is 84 also, its a tie What the fuck...Okay, you are write, I am 10000% wrong in every fucking word I say because I am only talking about one player with the same fucking rating as another, but I only include one... WHO THE FUCK CARES!!! Chara AND Pronger are the best. What fucking difference does it make...Jesus you people are dumb...
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:54:06 GMT -5
dude chill the fuck out, lol, ur idea is decent i get it, but it probably wont fly, just chill tho... lol
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Post by Retired Ducks GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:55:06 GMT -5
I am not unchilled. Its just comments like that that overshadow the actual point of this, and that is that people should not get ripped off because staff fail to consider this stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 17:55:44 GMT -5
ok i'll take this step by step
1st comment) never said Tukka Rask is the best...honestly do not know how that came up
2nd comment) This is a sim league here it would be fine but in the real world it wouldn't. But in sim leagues all 84's D or FW will play like they are 84's no doubt. this leads futher to the name thing. why since Pronger is one of the better D-man in the real NHL he is getting trated like a 89 d-man here when he would act like a 84 d-man on any team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 17:56:33 GMT -5
we will continue thios after i have supper
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:56:50 GMT -5
ur idea is decent but there are flaws to it, so thats why it probably wont fly
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Post by Retired Ducks GM on Nov 18, 2008 17:58:30 GMT -5
ok i'll take this step by step 1st comment) never said Tukka Rask is the best...honestly do not know how that came up 2nd comment) This is a sim league here it would be fine but in the real world it wouldn't. But in sim leagues all 84's D or FW will play like they are 84's no doubt. this leads futher to the name thing. why since Pronger is one of the better D-man in the real NHL he is getting trated like a 89 d-man here when he would act like a 84 d-man on any team. You said Rask was the best when you said guys 89 were the best and thus rated 89 for a reason. Rask is 89...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 17:59:15 GMT -5
if your talking to me i don't have an idea
if your talking to Ducks...i agree
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