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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Apr 1, 2014 11:07:37 GMT -5
Gillis shouldn't have traded Schneider at all. He should have dealt Luongo. Instead he decides to keep him and then this season they started another goalie situation with Lack. Now that situation started because of Torts who decided to play Lack more than Luongo. So basically...all of Vancouver's management/coaching is to blame.
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Post by Justin on Apr 1, 2014 14:59:10 GMT -5
I think it's all karma for trading Bure, to be honest.
They also traded Linden as well. Tsk tsk.
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Post by Calgary Flames GM on Apr 1, 2014 16:40:21 GMT -5
Lol Canucks are retarded.
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Post by Florida Panthers GM on Apr 1, 2014 19:38:34 GMT -5
Biggest surprised to me is how bad the season has been going for Vancouver. We only had ONE good month for Pete's peppers ! Henrik and Daniel no where to be seen . Torts making stupid decisions and forcing Vancouver to play a system they aren't built for . Injuries and don't even get me started on how he's treated the goalie situation. Mike Gillis/Alain Vignealult are the ones who created this goalie situation. Gillis should have traded Schneider a couple of years ago. Don't blame Torts for the goalie situation Lu has wanted out since last year. So not starting Luongo at the heritage classic was a smart move right ? That's what triggered the trade according to Dale tallon and Luongo's agent .
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Post by Winnipeg Jets GM on Apr 1, 2014 21:07:06 GMT -5
Mike Gillis/Alain Vignealult are the ones who created this goalie situation. Gillis should have traded Schneider a couple of years ago. Don't blame Torts for the goalie situation Lu has wanted out since last year. So not starting Luongo at the heritage classic was a smart move right ? That's what triggered the trade according to Dale tallon and Luongo's agent . You don't think that Florida and Van were in trade discussions and didn't want to risk Lu getting hurt?
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Post by Florida Panthers GM on Apr 1, 2014 21:34:51 GMT -5
So not starting Luongo at the heritage classic was a smart move right ? That's what triggered the trade according to Dale tallon and Luongo's agent . You don't think that Florida and Van were in trade discussions and didn't want to risk Lu getting hurt? I don't buy that . But you can if you want
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Post by Justin on Apr 2, 2014 7:13:46 GMT -5
I expected this thread to have at least one "The Leafs winning last night" comment this morning.
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Post by Winnipeg Jets GM on Apr 2, 2014 8:23:20 GMT -5
Gillis shouldn't have traded Schneider at all. He should have dealt Luongo. Instead he decides to keep him and then this season they started another goalie situation with Lack. Now that situation started because of Torts who decided to play Lack more than Luongo. So basically...all of Vancouver's management/coaching is to blame. Schneider never had a future in van. Gillis played his hand wrong and waited to long to trade him. Plus why trade the best goalie the Canucks have ever had? And if anyone says that Lu isn't clearly doesn't know hockey and is retarded.
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Apr 2, 2014 10:03:26 GMT -5
... The Leafs epic collapse. Yes, I am surprised by that. The Leafs epic collapse? How about the Oilers epic collapse? lol They were bubble team again (finally) last season and now they're finding themselves back at the bottom again. The Leafs collapse was no where near as epic as the Oilers this season. Yes, that surprised me as many of us inside and outside Oil Country felt we were finally turning the corner. And they have no glaring excuses this time either. They were healthy for a majority of the season, just not much chemistry past Hall-Nuge-Eberle, unfortunately. I'm honestly hoping they trade Yak this off season for some huge d-man or something, have Nurse in the line up next year and sign Brian Boyle in the off-season. Everyone says it's their defense that's shoddy, and to a point, it is, but the major problem is that they have too many of the same type of players up front; meaning there's a boatload of finesse players and a boatload of grinders and role players, but not enough of those skilled/hybrid power forwards to balance out the rest of the lineup. Hopefully Mac-T finds a way to obtain 1 or 2 them this off season, or it's going continue being another long "rebuild" process that's already been WAY too long already. As for surprises, the Avs is definitely a small one for me, for sure, but I figured with Roy handling that team they'd be pretty good. He brought the best out of what were a fairly average Remparts teams while he was there. So for me that wasn't much of a surprise and neither were the Blues really. St. Louis has been steadily progressing for about the last 4 seasons and have peak to a point where they should be a good team for a few seasons. For my money, the surprise team for me this year (funny enough) is the Rangers. I was never a big proponent of AV when he was here in Vancouver and I'm not a huge fan of his style of coaching, but he achieves results. I figured taking over Torts' highly defensive squad would be a mistake, much like it ended up being in Vancouver with Torts taking over his old team. AV just had enough offensive pieces to make his system work due to having Slats up in the big office. He might be getting old, but the man can still spot talent even to this day. I just figured that with the new coach that they wouldn't be as effective and wouldn't be in playoff contention at this point, but as it turns out, it was the new coaches in Vancouver and Edmonton that fucked it up. lol As for my surprise player this year, it's gotta be Marty St. Louis; much like Teemu surprised me last season. Not that I've never disliked Marty, but I'm always impressed when these late 30s and early 40s guys come in and are still schooling these young pups.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Apr 2, 2014 10:24:58 GMT -5
Gillis shouldn't have traded Schneider at all. He should have dealt Luongo. Instead he decides to keep him and then this season they started another goalie situation with Lack. Now that situation started because of Torts who decided to play Lack more than Luongo. So basically...all of Vancouver's management/coaching is to blame. Schneider never had a future in van. Gillis played his hand wrong and waited to long to trade him. Plus why trade the best goalie the Canucks have ever had? And if anyone says that Lu isn't clearly doesn't know hockey and is retarded. Nobody is saying Luongo should be traded. But Vancouver didn't really have many options. Their situation at the time (two goalies who should be starters) brought up the discussion that one of them had to go. You got a young goalie with a cap-friendly contract and another who is in the last quarter of his career with a contract that doesn't help out Vancouver at all. You are better off trading Luongo at that point. But fine, they decide to keep him and deal Schneider instead. So now you are basically telling Luongo that he is the clear starter. Everything is cool there. But then, don't follow up with the next season by starting Lack in big games when just the previous summer you said you were committed to Luongo. That is absolutely ridiculous. At that point, Luongo himself is fed up and wants out. So who is to blame here? Both management and coaching. Stupid, stupid decisions throughout the entire organization.
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