Questions

[Justin]

Just curious, not stirring anything up here.

What are the reasons behind the following rules in auctions:

Each bid must include the player’s full name, position, player type and rating.

When bidding, why does player type matter? I see why one person in 55 would want to know what an auctioned player is, but for a bid it just seems like a way to loophole people out of a bid.

If a bid is edited, it will also be deemed invalid.
When everyone can see the time something was last edited, I don't see why this needs to exist.

Again, I am just asking the logic behind these, and have to do it here since the rules are locked.

[Deleted]

1. It's easier for Pens, so he doesn't need to look up every winning bid's player types

2. because someone can bid an 87 after someone bid a 78 lets say, and then edit it last second to 79 and get an easy win.

[New York Islanders GM]

Full name - quite obvious
position - the players actual position, obvious
player type - we want people to know what player types belong to who, this way while bidding, it is easier for Yotes/Pens to know what player type the player is for the next auction.
Rating - obvious

Edited - prevents cheating, don't edited it makes it plain and simple, don't edited it, just make a new post

[Pittsburgh Penguins GM]

yes, edits are invalid as people could hide there bids that way. These rules are there for a reason. Player type becuase they are already there and we don't need anymore work for me and Quinn. GM's are already lazy enough. if we make it even less work for them, it makes more work for us.

and Yes rules and all that stuff will always be locked. We don't need anymore random crap making rules and everything else more complicated. All this stuff has worked fine for 29 seasons and those that wanted something different attempted there own sites. We are happy and content with what we have.

[Justin]

But you can see when someone last edited a post. When someone literally posted it a minute before editing (and you can clearly see that), it seems stupid to void the whole bid. A glance can tell the difference between a bid change (day or two later) and a correction in an initial bid (1-2 mins later).

Seems like overkill that just makes people waste a lot of time to save the auction guy the fraction of a second it takes to glance.

[Justin]

May 8, 2013 12:54:23 GMT -5 Pittsburgh Penguins GM said:

and Yes rules and all that stuff will always be locked. We don't need anymore random crap making rules and everything else more complicated. All this stuff has worked fine for 29 seasons and those that wanted something different attempted there own sites. We are happy and content with what we have.

Yes, it just means I have to post questions like this elsewhere, that is the only reason I mentioned it. I came to understand a long time ago that the politics on this site prevent change forever, so I have no interest in changing any of this nonsense. Just looking for the reasoning behind it.

[Wynne - Retired Flyers GM]

Just what the rules are. If you messed up your bid, make a new post, simple stuff.

[Pittsburgh Penguins GM]

Guys did it all the time. You make the first bid for a 89 player with an 89 player and if you edit it and make it a 79 player it doesn't show that anything new has happened and therefore the people that saw the original bid of an 89 aren't even looking at it anymore. People will do this to decieve others and that is why editing of bids is not and will never be allowed on here.

[Mike - Former Wild GM]

The modifying thing I totally understand, and I get that it's just simpler for people to include player types, but I don't think they should have their bid voided because they didn't include the player type.

The modify thing, I'll briefly explain why I did that. I first want to say that I am not asking anything be overturned, it's totally fine, no worries on that part.

Why I modified it - I posted a higher bid but couldn't remember who was or was not injured. Upon checking injuries, the lower rated player I bid was in fact injured, so I immediately modified it to a player of the same rating who was not injured. This was done literally hours before the auctions closed, so it wasn't any sort of last minute factor to allow me to win big on anything.

Secondly, the reason why it was modified is that I personally have it basically carved in stone not to double-post on sites because that shit is annoying. It's a habit of mine, and that habit cost me here. I hate clogging everything up, and it seemed retarded to me for me to modify the post, cross it out, write retracted, save that post, then post the new bid.

The only reason I was frustrated is only due to my post literally being modified a minute later after glancing at the injuries. I'll be sure to check that first next time, but this brings up another issue to me.

Who cares about injuries?

If you have a player that is injured, why not bid said player for someone who isn't? Then another team can know if that player is injured and decide if they want to bid for him. I see absolutely no reason why there should be more reasons to hinder any activity on the site, especially through auctions. I know most here will say "if it ain't broken don't fix it," I'm just saying I would make the auctions even MORE accessible to increase participation. Right now, there's more to your auctions system than there is to LITERALLY VOTING someone to office. Really think about that lmao

[Pittsburgh Penguins GM]

You can't add an injured player to a roster, that is the problem. So I end up having to keep track of injury dates and when I can attempt to add injured players to rosters. Also trying to take an injured player off of a team is alot of work on EA. The 18 and 23 player thing makes things horrible to deal with and takes alot of time when dealing with injured players.

[Mike - Former Wild GM]

Ah ok that makes sense.

[Justin]

May 8, 2013 14:20:29 GMT -5 Pittsburgh Penguins GM said:

Guys did it all the time. You make the first bid for a 89 player with an 89 player and if you edit it and make it a 79 player it doesn't show that anything new has happened and therefore the people that saw the original bid of an 89 aren't even looking at it anymore. People will do this to decieve others and that is why editing of bids is not and will never be allowed on here.

Gotcha, that makes more sense. Thank you for the more detailed clarification.