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Post by Mike - Former Wild GM on Jan 29, 2013 15:52:50 GMT -5
K cool. If there's a way to submit them I'd like to do so for next season.
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins GM on Jan 29, 2013 16:00:47 GMT -5
most have been submitted. We have a long list. Gradually get 5 in a year. We have to get real Legends in at the same time as we put the crap ones in that everybody wants as well. LOL
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Post by Justin on Jan 29, 2013 17:50:15 GMT -5
Trevor Kidd should be on this list, WTF Jesus WTF.
I'm under the impression this goes through more than 1 or 2 people before being decided upon though, so that's good. Cause when it comes to Legends, it's easy for some guys to look subjective when they are actually totally worthy.
The one PHX and I talked about was Felix Potvin. Who the fuck would consider him a legend? But when you look at the numbers, he had better career numbers than Mike Richter pretty much across the board.
If you asked me offhand if I would consider Potvin a legend, I would say no, he is just someone people have a sentimental attachment to. But when Richter is here, it kind of means Potvin should be. I mean, all that separates them is 1 Stanley Cup, and 1 All-star appearance. And if Cups matter, Roenick is here...
And so on. Legends are neat either way.
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins GM on Jan 29, 2013 18:12:09 GMT -5
most of Felix's best numbers were as a back-up playing against expansion teams. Remember the days that backups got to play against all the expansion teams. Sucks to have parity in the league now, well atleast for backup goalies
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Post by Justin on Jan 29, 2013 18:29:09 GMT -5
...are you basing that on his best season - the one where he had 69GP and had a save percentage of 0.910? And how does that argument account for Potvin having better PLAYOFF career numbers than Richter as well?
And are you taking into account that he played for BRUTAL teams, when Richter played behind Messier, Gretzky, Leetch, Graves, Bure, Fleury, Lindros, and the rest of the NHL Hall of Fame? Or are we just Potvin-hating again?
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins GM on Jan 30, 2013 9:06:50 GMT -5
yes, Potvin had acouple good years as an NHL starter. But many many more as NHL backup and expansion goalie
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Post by Justin on Jan 30, 2013 15:04:57 GMT -5
yes, Potvin had acouple good years as an NHL starter. But many many more as NHL backup and expansion goalie ...I don't get what you are saying here. I am looking at CAREER numbers, and PLAYOFF numbers. He was not a backup his whole career, and he was not a backup in the playoffs. Just because Richter was a starter for a stacked team doesn't make him better than a goalie with better numbers. All that separates them (as I said several times) is a Cup. That's it. And if anything, Felix Potvin stealing a STARTING job from Grant Fuhr in 93 should be a testament to his quality as a STARTER as well.... |
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on Jan 30, 2013 15:19:45 GMT -5
He was a starter for what, like 7 or 8 seasons? I'm just looking at numbers here. He only played over 50 games 5 times, throw in the shortened season in '94, and '93 where he played 48. The rest looks like backup numbers for starts.
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Post by Justin on Jan 30, 2013 16:30:59 GMT -5
But...why is this even kind of relevant? They played almost identical career games and one clearly has better career numbers. Felix even had more shutouts, (his best being when he played 71 games - more than Richter ever had in 1 season).
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Post by Colorado Avalanche GM on Jan 30, 2013 16:42:31 GMT -5
Backup goalies play against weaker opponents.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jan 30, 2013 18:02:52 GMT -5
Potvin only played ~30 games less than Richter. And he wasn't in the league that much longer.
I don't give a flying fuck either way, but I'm just saying.
Also, Potvin fucked up Hextall.
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Post by Justin on Jan 30, 2013 18:28:18 GMT -5
Also, Potvin fucked up Hextall. One of the coolest moments ever of my hockey childhood. |
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Post by Justin on Jan 30, 2013 18:34:58 GMT -5
Backup goalies play against weaker opponents. He played for the Leafs, Islanders, Canucks, Kings, and Bruins. His team WAS the weaker opponent... And still no one has addressed the playoff issue. Better stats in the playoffs, and pretty much same number of GP. |
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins GM on Sept 10, 2013 13:03:36 GMT -5
I hope these are the only ones I am missing from the list LOL
C Andy Bathgate PLY 89
G Turk Broda 89
D Dit Clapper TWD 88
C Joe Malone SNP 88
LW Wendal Clark PWF 87
G Felix Potvin 87
D Sergei Zubov OFD 88
LW Cy Denney SNP 88
LW Markus Naslund SNP 87
C Pierre Turgeon PLY 88
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Post by Justin on Oct 27, 2013 2:04:19 GMT -5
When do you add? Should we be adding the new ones as they are added to auctions so the Ace legends entering auctions now are on this list too?
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