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Post by jmcook on Sept 1, 2010 12:17:09 GMT -5
I like Thomas at an 84. I think they did good on the goalies.
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Post by jmcook on Sept 1, 2010 12:18:11 GMT -5
one good year doesn't get you an 88 goalie
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Sept 1, 2010 12:40:55 GMT -5
The goalies aren't good, the only good ratings so far I see are forwards, for the most part. D are fucked.
Goalies aren't great, Bryzgalov is arguably a top 5, Brodeur is a top 5. Yet they are lower then guys like Backstrom, Vokoun, Ward.
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on Sept 1, 2010 12:43:52 GMT -5
Take a look at Vokoun's numbers post lockout, he has been one of the best goalies in the league. He's got really good numbers.
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Sept 1, 2010 12:51:15 GMT -5
I know hes a good goalie, hes very very underrated, but hes not as good as Brodeur. I say around or a notch below Bryzgalov.
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Post by jmcook on Sept 1, 2010 12:56:28 GMT -5
Ward is to high. But Broduer isn't what he once was. I agree he is borderline top 5 now. He has had to modify his game in the last couple years becuase of injuries or age. He is an alltime great but playing his entire career for the most defensive team in history has some to do with his numbers. Not wins buts numbers.
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:03:45 GMT -5
blue = Should be higher red = good the rest, should be lower
R Miller 91 - No arguments, great goalie R Luongo 90 - Don't think hes elite, a good goalie - certainly glad hes not number 1 M Kiprusoff 89 - No arguments N Backstrom 89 - Kinda high, hes good, but should be 87 M Fleury 89 - Again good player, but too high, 88/87 H Lundqvist 89 - No arguments T Vokoun 89 - SHould be 88, good, but not as good as some C Ward 88 - Good rating M Brodeur 88 - Not a good rating, should be on par with Luongo at the very least I Bryzgalov 87 - should be higher, 88-89 J Howard 85 - good J Halak 85 - good J Giguere 84 - good S Varlamov 84 - decent, maybe 83 Quick 84 - good J Hiller 84 - good R DiPietro 84 - not good, should be like 80 T Rask 84 - good K Lehtonen 84 - good T Thomas 84 - good, maybe 83 C Anderson 83 - One higher S Mason 83 - meh C Price 83 - meh P Rinne 83 - Not good, should be in the 85 area C Mason 82 - good
I'm bored. lol
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:05:34 GMT -5
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:09:18 GMT -5
Miller, Luongo, Brodeur, Kiprusoff, Lundqvist all better Arguably Bryzgalov, Ward and another. I'm not saying hes not good, always been a fan of his, great goalie, top 10 for sure. But there are better. See his competition in the list, yeah.. lol
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:10:25 GMT -5
He has had better numbers then those goalies and he has been playing on Florida and Nashville.
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Post by Tjhaskell - Retired Jets GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:21:53 GMT -5
Weber = 86
Kaberle = 84/85
Komisarek =82
Kessel = 85/86
Pretty glad that Parise is an 89.. Jeff Carter should be a little higher IMO but everyone has their own opinion...
Ribiero at 84 is a joke ... whos better.. Ribiero at 84 or Kessel at 84 ..
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:25:23 GMT -5
The should be in my eyes;
Chara = 88 Lidstrom = 89 Keith = 88 Weber = 86-87 Regehr = 84 Komisarek = 81-82 Kaberle = 84-85 Kessel = 85-86 Brodeur = 89-90
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Post by New York Islanders GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:27:57 GMT -5
The should be in my eyes; Chara = 88 Lidstrom = 89 Keith = 88 Weber = 86-87 Regehr = 84 Komisarek = 81-82 Kaberle = 84-85 Kessel = 85-86 Brodeur = 89-90 Agreed 100%
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:31:26 GMT -5
I can agree, Brodeur 90 though. Ribiero at 84 is good.
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Post by New York Islanders GM on Sept 1, 2010 13:36:18 GMT -5
Wait, does that say Regher is the highest rated defensemen?
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