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Post by 34lutzy - Former Hurricanes GM on May 21, 2009 20:52:31 GMT -5
EDM Gets:
LW Justin Abdelkader PWF 76
EDM 1st Rounder
DET Gets:
LW Matt Moulson PWF (77)
DET 3rd Rounder
EDM 4th Rounder
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on May 21, 2009 20:54:04 GMT -5
My team sucks shit, so I needed my 1st back.
Accept.
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on May 21, 2009 20:55:11 GMT -5
Reject. There's no need for a 1st rounder to be in this kind of trade.
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Post by Heater - Former Capitals GM on May 21, 2009 20:57:35 GMT -5
I think its a fair trade. Accept.
3rd and 4th are pretty much the same and not too much worse than a 1st together.
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Post by C00kies - Retired Kings GM on May 21, 2009 21:07:39 GMT -5
I kinda gotta say no, if it was a 2nd for a 3rd I'd do it, but not a 1st for a 3rd and 4th.
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Post by Fluffy - Former Senators GM on May 22, 2009 0:14:20 GMT -5
Reject.
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Post by The Admin Account on May 22, 2009 1:51:19 GMT -5
3 rejects, sorry boys.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on May 22, 2009 15:17:34 GMT -5
I don't get how that isn't fair.
I get a 76 and a 79-81 plaer.
He gets a three 77ish players.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on May 22, 2009 18:10:30 GMT -5
Not to be a pain, but can someone explain why this was rejected and CBJ/LA was accepted?
This is based on what I drafted in the previous draft.
EDM Gets:
LW Justin Abdelkader PWF 76
EDM 1st Rounder (79)
DET Gets:
LW Matt Moulson PWF (77)
DET 3rd Rounder (77)
EDM 4th Rounder (77)
So if you move overalls around, I get a 76 and a 79, he gets a 79, 77, 75, more than fair.
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CBJ gets:
C- Esa Pirnes (84) SNP
LA gets:
1st (79)
2nd (78)
3rd (77)
Again moving overalls around, CBJ gets an 84, LA gets a 84, 77, 73.
My trade seems more fair than this one, to me anyways.
All I'm asking for is a simple explanation.
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on May 22, 2009 18:16:34 GMT -5
He doesn't get a 79, he gets a 77 with both picks. There is no need for a 1st round draft pick to be in such a deal. It's a 76 swap. If you want a 1st you gotta give something decent up, at least an 80 IMO. CBJ/LA deal, CBJ gets an 84, better then anything in the draft. LA doesn't get an 84, he'll maybe get a 79ish player. That deal is way different from this one. CBJ/LA involves a quality player, this some doesn't. That deal should include a 1st, this one shouldn't unless DET is getting a decent impact player, which he isn't.
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on May 22, 2009 18:17:36 GMT -5
Why would you move overalls around? That really makes no sense whatsoever.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on May 22, 2009 18:21:12 GMT -5
I moved the overalls around to represent that it is infact an equal trade.
It seems to me there is a double standard with trades, certain members have every trade accepted and then certain members trades are subject to different standards.
Look at the one Jersey deal a couple seasons back, that was absolutely rediculous and still got accepted.
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Post by Wynne - Retired Flyers GM on May 22, 2009 18:26:42 GMT -5
There are no double standards at all. This deal has no business having a 1st rounder included. If you want a 1st, your going to have to give something good up, not a swap of 77's/76's with some mid to late draft picks. LA gave up something good, Esa Pirnes. A very good producer and a top liner for CBJ. DET got nothing from this trade. He lost a 1st and got a 1 overall upgrade on what, a 4th liner? I still don't understand why you would move overalls..Your getting 77's with 3rd's/4th's. You can't move overalls after the fact to make one better and one less. A 79 is different from 77.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on May 22, 2009 18:34:07 GMT -5
So even if I don't move the overalls.
With the first I get a 79, and a 76, he gets a 77, and the third and fourth which are both still 77's, how is that unfair, he gets 3 77 players for a 79 and 76?
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on May 22, 2009 18:40:18 GMT -5
Anyways, whatever, all I wanted was an explanation, and I got it.
I still don't like the decision though.
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